Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Answer the following:

1) What was the hardest kicking rifle you ever fired?

2) What is the gun you could never sell?

Here are mine…

1) My Ruger #3 in 45-70 - kicked so hard with hot loads it split my lip.

2) I have the Carcano rifle that was used for ballistics from the Kennedy assassination given to me by one of the officers of the NRA and my father's Walther P-38 made in 1944 he left to me when he died.

86 comments:

  1. 1) Well not a rifle but the hardest kicking firearm would be my 12 GA Beretta folding shotgun. It's a single shot that weighs a measly 5 lbs. Even lite trap loads will wake you up but magnum rounds from this thing are just brutal.

    2) I don't think I would ever sell that Beretta even if isn't the most practical shotgun. I only paid $35 for it twenty years ago and I can brag that I own a Beretta shotgun!

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  2. You are right bill - I should have said hardest kicking firearm.

    Mike

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  3. SAKO TRG-S in 30-378 with 180gr Barnes X going 3550 fps over a chrony. Rifle had no optic and measly 3/16" thick plastic pad on it. Some kind of sick recoil pad joke the Finns play on us I guess. Rifle weighed 7lb 4oz. I fired it from standing too. Kicked hard. 17rds fired in first test session, shoulder, neck, spine hurt for days.

    Close second would be an iron sighted Browning A-Bolt Stainless Stalker in 375 H&H with warm 300gr handloads. That had a pad on it but only weight 7lbs 1oz. I miss that rifle actually.

    Maybe a third entry too, buddy had a 340 Weatherby for a while but that was long ago. Fun to shoot compared to my two above.

    For hardest kicking pistol.. I own a S&W 500 Magnum ES Survival Package Revolver. 2-3/4" bbl, up to 700gr bullets, up to 2500ft/lbs, 9" long, 3-1/2 lbs. About as hard kicking as they get. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/500-SW-ES/031.jpg
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    Dave

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  4. The hardest kicking firearm was a Browning Auto gas operated shotgun, 12 ga. The gas port was drilled oversized at the factory, and even the lightest field loads would leave your shoulder paralyzed for 30 minutes.

    The one I would never trade is either of my M1911a1 s . Particularly the WWII vintage made by the Remington Rand Corp. Pretty good typewriter.

    The Old Fart

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  5. I have not fired it yet, and maybe never will. If it hurts, I don't do it; unless its on a tri-pod.

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  6. marlin 444 and I would never sell any gun

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  7. The hardest kicking gun I ever fired was my uncles'12 ga. double barrel. Not only was it heavy but it knocked me for a loop since I only weighed about 60 pounds at age six. One gun I will never part with is my Remington 742 Woodsmaster .308.

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  8. The hardest whacking I ever got from a firearm was when I was about 5 years old, daddy let me shoot a 12 Ga. Poke Stock. We went out on the back porch and he stood me in front of him as he kneeled down, pulled the trigger I went back and knocked him down too. See that 12 Ga. had a kick for sure, two with one shot. (Thanks dad, I really do miss you so much)

    As far as a gun I would never sell. Browning .22 pump (Trombone) daddy got that for me when I was 8 or so for $89.00 in Ohio over 40 years ago. Still looks like it just came out of the box.

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  9. hand gun 460 s&w rifel bmg 50 first shot gun remington 860

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  10. My brother has a 10 guage turkey gun that will jolt every bone in your body with magnum loads, love my Ruger P90

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  11. Hardest kicking gun was the 30-06 garand my dad handed me to use on my first deer hunt at age 12.I thought I was kiked by a mule.Wish I still had that rifle today.

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  12. 45-70 Thompson Center Contender; kicks like a mule, never part with Ruger No. 1 in 30-06; or for that fact any of my firearms, would share with family members and bequieth when I die.

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  13. As a youngster, a 30-40 Kraig knocked me on my tail, since then not much has, but I'm sure many could!

    Never sell?? Probably none of them (except a small .380 backup, which is sort of useless), but I am particularly fond of my .44 Mag Colt Anaconda, 6 inch, stainless. No reason, just really enjoy it!

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  14. 44 MAG w/ 240 GRAIN REVOLVER

    44 MAG MARLIN LEAVER ACTION IS THE BEST.

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  15. old military 8mm Mauser steel butt plate.Kicks like a mule.

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  16. The handgun with the greatest recoil would probably be a 454 Casual, for a rifle it would be a Remington 700 in 300 Winchester Magnum but then there is the Shotgun with a 3 inch OO.

    As for selling a gun I will never sell a gun!

    Then there was that question about what caliber is best for the military.
    My opinion is the 40 S&W; to be precise the M&P40.
    The amount of ammo is almost the same although a couple rounds less; the stopping power is considerably greater.

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  17. My Dad, always fond of a cheap deal bought a Russian made single shot 12 gage from KMart. I always said it was probably made from cast-off/out of specification sewer pipe. I used it to hunt rabbits on San Juan Island when I was stationed at Fort Lewis, WA. It kicked like a damned Army mule and is still just as ugly. (meaning no offense to mules)

    I could never sell most of my guns, but my Mom's 30-40 Krag is probably the ONE.

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  18. Hardest kick was from a 300 win mag fired in a Browning A-bolt-Brutal!
    The weapon I could never get rid of is a 1911A1 series 70 that is a true joy to shoot!

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  19. if they pass bho's new gun laws, you will not be permitted to bequith any firarms to anyone! not even spouses/family. part of the 'change' bho promised us all - called 'closing the loophole'. rat bastard!

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  20. The hardest-kicking gun I have ever fired is a 12 gauge shotgun.
    I would only sell one of my guns if financial calamity loomed or if the chance for gain was simply too enticing. In any case, the last one I would part with is my .308 Springfield Armory M1A with all of the features on it that Barbara Boxer hates.

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  21. Shoulder fired M-60 machine gun on full auto -circa Viet Nam '68. (Hold it sideways so it doesn't climb on you!) Never part with my AK-47 taken during a raid on a VN command post.

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  22. I had not heard about "closing the loophole" and not permitting a firearm to be passed on to family. What kind of commie crap is that? rat bastard is right!

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  23. 1. 10 Gauge Shotgun...I did manage to stay on my feet, but 3 shots was enough for me.
    2. Smith & Wesson .41 mag. But, I do not plan to sell any. I have sold or traded 2 guns in my life and I regret both transactions. Rather than sell, I plan to legally buy as many as I can from other law abiding citizens in my own state. And you know why...

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  24. A 38 -56......back in the 40's shot at a squirrel
    but took the whole limb off under him..black powder shell and a hell of a kick, that's why
    I missed the squirrl...

    I'm keeping my Remington Wingmaster 870....

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  25. My Remington 30.06 kicks pretty well. I will never sell any gun.

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  26. It has to be the 510 Wells Express. It's a 460
    Weatherby necked up to 50 caliber with a 600+ grain bullet at around 2,500 fps. Fred Wells claimed that there was no big game on the planet that it would not penetrate end to end and I believe it. One round penetrated over 36 inches of packed crushed granite and kept right on going down range. It was pretty brutal.

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  27. Marlin Lever-Action .375 Mag."Big-Bore" firing a 180-grain load. And I've never owned a gun that someone else didn't want.

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  28. The first firearm I ever shot at the age of 12 was my father's 12 gauge shotgun. I wondered at the time why he held me from behind before I pulled the trigger.The bruise on my shoulder told the story best. He's passed away and I inherited the 12 gauge. I still get "a real kick out of it!" It's also the gun I would never sell. God bless Dad a WWII Navy Vet. A 60 year old retired school marm.

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  29. Hardest Kick: McMillan bolt action 50 BMG. Even with the muzzle brake, the thing is just brutal on both ends.
    Sell a gun? You must be joking...

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  30. 1. A Sako 85 Hunter chambered in .375 H&H.

    2. I would never sell my Colt Lightweight Commander.

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  31. Hardest kicking gun I ever shot was a 12-gauge shotgun, and for sentimental reasons, I will never sell my Ithaca lever-action single-shot .22.

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  32. The hardest kicking gun I ever shot was a single shot 12 gauge that weighed 5 pounds - an H&R topper. I put a 3" shell with 00 buckshot in it to pattern the buckshot. It was a jolt.

    My go to rife - one I will never get rid of? That is tough. It would have to be my bolt action .22 Marlin Squirrel rifle - it is the most accurate rifle I have ever owned.

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  33. At the time I was 15 years old and I fired an M1 for the first time, but I think my cousins .35 was pretty good also. Part with any of my guns, no way charley, especiall my lugers. Now we should not call the raghead in chief any names, he is doing the best that he can to destroy our country as I don't believe it is his country.

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  34. Gun that kicks the hardest - My Ruger #1 375H&H.
    Gun that I would never sell - the ones I own!

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  35. Greatest kick rifle - .45-70
    Shotgun 16 gauge single break Savage
    Handgun - Ruger .44 mag

    Favorite carry piece - .380 Walther PPKS

    Won't sell - Pass down to family.

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  36. A Steven's 12 ga. auto with a plastic (nylon?) stock. It was my dad's and his dad's before him, so it is ONE of many that I will never part with until I part this earth.

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  37. Hardest kicking
    12 ga bolt action shotgun

    never sell
    single shot remington .22 Father gave to me when I was a child

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  38. I fired a .50 BAR. Oh' baby !!!!
    I was 14 and it shook me to my toes.

    I have a sporterized Moisen Nagant that is sweet with huge scope and custom engraving is a favorite! Sell a gun ??? Only to buy two more!

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  39. Hardest kick I ever got was from my Remington 870 12 gauge 3" magnum turkey load. I hurt for days and my shoulder was bruised.

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  40. loaded a bunch of 325gr for my 4 5/8" ruger 45 long colt vaquero... fired a dozen or so and was useless for the rest of the day. stil a little shakey the following morning

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  41. Sharpes 45-70 .. You know what it takes to knock a Buffalo down !!

    Never sell my Springfield O3-A3 w/5 lan barrell.. Sporterized w/scope or my Sharpes 45-70.. smooth and accurate!

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  42. I would have to say a 458 Weatherby...Dear LORD, what a monster!

    BE CAREFUL WITH ALL MARCHES ,DHS HAS BEEN ORDERED TO FILM ALL FACES SO THEY WILL BE IN THE FACIAL RECOGNITION DATABASE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THEY CONSIDER ALL OF US A THREAT TO THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. WEAR LARGE HATS AND SUN GLASSES,AVOID LOOKING DIRECTLY AT NEWS MEDIA CAMERAS.THE DHS HAS SINCE FEB BEEN GETTING COPIES OF MEDIA FOOTAGE TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR OWN FILM OF FACES TO PUT INTO THE DATABASE.THIS INFO COMES FROM IN THEIR HOUSE.ATF IS TRYING VERY HARD TO DRAG THEIR FEET...BUT HAS RECEIVED THEIR ORDERS FROM THE ATTY GEN.aLL AGENCIES UNDER DHS HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO PARTICIPATE AND THE FBI WHO IS UNDER JUSTICE ALONG WITH ATF,IS ECSTATIC... AS THEY NO LONGER HAVE TO BE AS SNEAKY ABOUT DOMESTIC SPYING ON AMERICAN CITIZENS.

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  43. Hardest hitting .375 H&H magnum. Hurt me most was a light 12 Ga Coach gun from the hip like in the movies. Fired rear trigger and front trigger ripped finger open. Hell that was over 35 years ago and I don't ever believe what I see in movies. My sons wnon't make that mistake.

    Second, I won't sell anything, but a keeper is definitely a S&W model 28 in .357.
    I can hit anything within 100 yards and it scares the crap out of intruders. ( Can yo say make my day same frame)

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  44. A 500 Linebaugh & a 470 capstick,must be getting
    old....ric

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  45. Hardest recoil was 600 nitro express (old 4 gauge elephant gun)
    2. my 41 S@W mag

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  46. Hardest kicking: M-60 courtesy of Uncle Sam.

    Sidearm for life: Nickel-plated Smith Model 10 that I wore while a Deputy Sheriff...looks great in the headlights of tail gaters....

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  47. I am a 62 yr old grandmother with artheritis so shooting some days can be difficult at best. I have found that my short barrel 357 is the toughest for me to shoot accurately. My 45 Colt officer also. However, my Colt 45 Government is wonderful. Recoil is strong but smooth and allows me to let the gun do it's job without needed control. Thank God for Colt!

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  48. BAR
    S&W 44 mag

    I sold my guns before, this time they're here to stay.

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  49. The toughest I ever fired was a .458 Win Mag rifle - luckily I was standing so I rolled with it. Two rounds was enough!

    My keeper: a Winchester M1 Garand I bought in 1964. "Miss Kitty" has the honored slot in my safe.

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  50. THE HARDEST BUCKING GUN THAT I HAVE SHOT WOULD BE MY MOSSBERG 500 12 GAUGE WITH A 3" MAGNUM "00" BUCK LOAD. I REPLACED THE STOCK AND FOREGRIP WITH PISTOL GRIPS. THREE SHOTS OF THAT STUFF WILL LEAVE THE HANDS SORE FOR A WEEK! I WOULD NOT SELL ANY GUN THAT I POSSESS AND "NO ONE" WILL TAKE MY GUNS AS LONG AS I CAN KEEP PULLING THE TRIGGER!

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  51. Hardest kicking would be a 416 double rifle, Never to sell would be all of them of course but the one that would be taken only after it was dropped would be my custom Kimber TLE II.

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  52. The hardest recoil firearm I have right now would be my Saiga (AK47) 12 gauge shotgun with a twelve round magazine. My pistol would be my S&W 460 mag grizzly bear special with 2 1/2 inch barrel.

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  53. 12 gauge double barrel stevens, some idiot had "worked on the triggers" both went off at once. Bought that gun, still have it, but fixed it right! M1A was stolen--but I have Israeli FN-FL, love it!!! And gramps' 1911 issued to him in 1917! "No sale" is excuse to register-- WILL confiscate!!!

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  54. The hardest kicking firearm I have fired is my Palmetto Arms of Philadelphia ( U.S. Patten 1913 ) 12 gage single shot full choke shotgun.No rubber pad on this baby either.even with low base shells.OW!!!! And the first time I fired it,after purchasing it for $50 at a local gun shop,I was wearing only a T-shirt

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  55. .300 Magnum knocked my dad (200 lbs) off the bench at the rifle range. The scope sent his glasses flying !!!

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  56. they are trying to pass a law NOW which they claim is to stop private sales at gun shows. BUT, if you read the damn thing it makes it ILLEGAL to transfer firearms EVEN amongst family members and even by bequest [even to kin]. if you READ the law, when someone breaks into your house and your wife uses YOUR gun to stop the bastard, SHE is the felon b/c SHE is NOT the owner of the damn thing. you really need to read the fine print and write your elected dudes befor bho's crowd pushes this thru. there will be no going back. they ARE on the march and WE are the targets.

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  57. and, i guess that will get me on their 'watch list'. rat bastards!

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  58. My 44mag Model 29 has a nice kick to it, My 870 (RemZilla) with magnum 00's is pretty healthy, and my good old 270 Model 721 Rem has a decent jolt.

    I can't imagine ever getting rid of anything while the nutballs and grabbers run the gummint. Last to go would be the TRR8 Model 327 (I LOVE it!) and for the rifle the Ruger 10/22's (one converted to 17HM2) and for shottie's the Rem 1100 20g vent rib SWeeeeeet!

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  59. .458 magnum. Kicked like a mule ! The kind of rifle that you shoot into the woods, and pick thru
    the rubble for the game.

    For handguns; I'd have to say that there are 2.
    The first is a Ruger SA in .44 Mag. That buckhorn
    grip ensures that you're gonna get the web of
    your shooting hand with the hammer spur.

    Second would be S&W's ultralite 2" with full
    house .38 spl. (I do'nt remenber the material
    used for the frame.) It hurt after only 5 rounds.

    As to a gun I'd never sell: ALL of them. I've
    only sold 3 guns in 45 years, and regretted
    every one.

    NRA Lifer.

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  60. 12 guage with pistol grip firing 00. Don't know why I fired the second round. But was done shooting for the day.

    Gun I would never sell, .357 Colt Python, 4" nickel.

    HITLER IS BACK ... THIS TIME HE'S BLACK !!!

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  61. HARDEST KICKING GUN IS MY REMINTON 870 ULTRA MAG WITH A PISTOL GRIP AND 10 ROUND MAGAZINE TUBE, 10+1 TOTAL IN 2 3/4 ".SHOOTING A 3 1/2 SHELL OF ANY TYPE IS TUFF. SLUG OR 00 BUCKSHOT IS PROBABLY THE WORST, BUT THE DAMAGE IS TERMINAL PERFORMANCE.I WON'T SELL IT. WITH THE IMPENDING WAR IN THIS GREAT NATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE BACK, I LIKE A GUN THAT IS GOOD AT CQC OR AT SOME DISTANCE. SEMPER FI. NAVY CRT.

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  62. Hardest was a friends .458 Win Mag with his "special" handloads. Knocked me back three steps while he laughed like crazy. For some unknown reason, I fired two more rounds before quitting. (Also, fired six "special" handloads from his Ruger .44 Mag. Couldn't shake hands for about four days)

    Sold one S&W 669 to a Border Patrol Agent 15 years ago (didn't fit my hands) - still got all the rest including the two Glocks I bought after selling the 669.

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  63. 458 LOTT... But, puts Buff on the ground.

    Not for sale... Glock 21's

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  64. .50 cal BMG sniper rifle was the hardest kicking I ever shot, though the muzzle break did work well, can't imagine shooting wothout one.

    I won't sell any of my guns except maybe in a trade up deal for another gun like an M1.

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  65. 12 guage Winchester shotgun but I love it anyway.

    I won't sell my Colt 45 atomatic. It became my buddy in the short time I spent in the USMC nearly 60 years ago.

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  66. The hardest kicking rifle I ever fired was an '03 Springfield. about 8 pounds and if you're not holding it pretty tight it'll hurt ya.

    I have an old flintlock pistol with no makers mark that i'd never sell.

    Charlie

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  67. hardest kicking gun that I have shot was 12 guage sawed off shotgun *"12" inch* did not belong to me, butt hit the ground. I weighed a whopping 95 lbs. This oldie goldie *me* 69 yrs ond has & will have til I die a $) cal.with red dot laser & Ruger 9mm and both are MY personal body guards
    Will NEVER sell a fire arm & never have.

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  68. made a mistake on first post 40 cal is what I tried to say it is the one with laser. love seeing the dot on a target. Grandmother of 3

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  69. 44 magium pistol

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  70. The hardest kicking gun i ever fired was an old single shot 12ga. It had a hair trigger so you never knew when it would go off.
    The gun i will always try to keep id the first gun i bought in the mid 60s It is a Ruger Bearcat single action 22 cal .

    George S.
    Greensboro, NC

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  71. 1. Also not a rifle. My Benelli Super Nova with 20 inch barrel and tactical stock using 3 inch double 00 buckshot. Yowzer!!

    2. My dad's Japanese Type 99 Arisaka, 7.7, captured on Guadalcanal, with original bayonet w/ scabbard, plastic muzzle protector, cleaning rod, sight with aircraft wings intact, dust cover made from a food tin, matching numbers, mum has double knife cuts.

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  72. Not me, but a gundealer friend got in a 600 H&H Express double rifle and had never shot one, so got a box of shells. He thought and thought about the warning on the box "Do not fire from a prone position". The more he thought the more he procrastinated until he sold it without ever putting a round through it.

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  73. I've never shot anything more than a 12 gauge pump or a .54 ca. muzzleloader. I'm not a glutton for punishment. Brings to ind however of an incident when we were at a small gunshop just shootin' the breeze when one fellow said:

    "I really love my 10 gauge for ducks. It really reaches way out there and brings em' down."

    Well the fellow that said this was named George and he was just a little guy at about 4'8". Charlie who was the owner of the shop replied:

    "Yea, your right about that gun, but just remember, you were a six footer when you bought it!"

    My pick for a favorite gun was a Colt Woodsman. You could drive nails at 30 feet with that little pistol.

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  74. Most Kick: 458 Mag. Owner had showed his NY buddies how to pistol shoot it. It spent 8 weeks in the gun shop. He spent 8 weeks in hospital getting hand and side of face rebuilt.

    I will never, never give up my guns. I'm 68. Life is good, but the Kenyan in our White house will never get my weapons. Also, purchase lots of rope,
    as we'll need it soon. The 4th American Revolution is on the near horizon (1776,1812,1861).
    God Bless America, or whats left of it.

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  75. Back in the late 1960's I bought a plymouth(the only name on the gun plymouth gun company,no serial numbers either,one or two small numbers when the barrel was broken open) shotgun 12 gauge double barrel.I shot it one time it nearly broke my shoulder with a light dove load.paid $25.00 for it and sold it the next day for $30.00.next to it a Franchi 12 gauge double barrel weighed about 6 pounds kept it less than a week.

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  76. Interesting note.seen all the customers in gun shops lately?maybe they are there for a reason.no paper work guns please,large pvc pipe(place gun inside in well oiled cloths,another for ammo)bury in fresh dug grave at night(metal detector is useless finding it,next take a picture of your uncles funeral.when the time comes dig it up.remember that (fema)has over 800 prisons just waiting for desidents(Alaska has room for over 1 million and the population of Alaska around 800,000 HUH! say it isn't so.

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  77. My dad's 12 gauge shotgun...he laughed...though he should have told me to hold it tight against my shoulder and not about an inch away...lesson learned. I was about 12 yrs old. This was way before any thought of trying to outlaw guns.

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  78. Hardest "kicking" firearm I've ever shot? 458 Win. Mag. It gives a pretty good thump to the shooter. The one firearm I would never sell? (Not that I could ever foresee selling a personal arm.) A four-inch, royal blue Colt Python lovingly tuned by the late Fred Sadowski. It doesn't get much better than that!

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  79. I had Browning 12 guage shotgun. I order a magnum barrel (3 inch shells) for it. My husky 12 year of son begged to be the first on to shot it.

    One the first shot he just laid down and cried. He borrowed it( with normal barrel) from me years ago. Left it in the back of his truck. Have never seen it since. . .

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  80. The hardest kicking shoulder fired weapn I've fired was a .69 caliber smoothbore musket.

    The hardest kicking over-all was a 106mm recoilless rifle

    I don't have any guns I'd sell. I've made too many of those mistakes already in my short life.

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  81. Has any one shoot a .264 Win Mag? This the Hardest kiking rile for me.

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  82. I don't own a weapon I hesitate to use on a "recoil" basis. Kick doesn't have a place in a discussion about weapons. The government tried to get us killed in the transfer to the Maggott-16 over the 308/30-06. If you shoot an enemy with the 30-06, they are down for good. But the logic of taking two enemies out of the fight cause one has to drag the other away because they were shot with the smaller weapon is ludicrous. Shoot twice and kill them both, and at a much further distance. The best weapon as a sidearm would, in my humble opinion, be the .40 S&W

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  83. Hard kick, Ithaca 12ga pump with youth stock.bloodied my nose,bruised shoulder. Now has proper stock. I would never sell any weapons .

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  84. RIFLE-MY PRE-64 MODEL 70 IN 375 H&H---pistol-my original no. hollywood .44 auto-mag both are tough to handle. Have not sold a personal gun in 35 years......

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  85. 10 ga S & H Goosee load 40" barrel used ystick to hold it up forgot to not lean on tree bruised shoulder for weeks and "author" set in same shoulder. To many favorite's sold, a 22 Mag snub, bad choice, never again,

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  86. Hardest kick I ever got was with a 10ga shotgun, and Marlin 45/70

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